Package Details: visual-studio-code-bin 1.28.2-2

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Description: Visual Studio Code (vscode): Editor for building and debugging modern web and cloud applications (official binary version)
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Licenses: custom: commercial
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Provides: code
Submitter: dcelasun
Maintainer: dcelasun
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First Submitted: 2017-12-18 19:14
Last Updated: 2018-10-28 06:50

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dcelasun commented on 2017-11-15 06:20

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dcelasun commented on 2018-11-03 19:34

All right, thanks for voicing your opinions everyone. I've decided to remove pylint as an optdepend in the next version. I also won't be adding any language specific dependencies from now on.

jakebailey commented on 2018-11-03 19:25

IMO, pylint is an optional dependency for an extension you can install, not for the editor itself, so it probably shouldn't be an optdepend. Optional dependencies for things like trash support definitely make sense because it's an optional editor feature, but I can think of a number of other extensions that also ask for things to be installed (the Go extension prompts to install linters, C/C++ extension asks about clang-format, etc), and I wouldn't personally want those added as optdepends either. If you configure the extension to specify a different linter (flake8/pep8), then it'll show the same prompt but for that other tool too, pylint's just the default. Always running pylint is going to stop being the default in the python extension anyway [1] [2].



(Disclaimer, I work on the python team at Microsoft, but this isn't any sort of official opinion or anything. I just noticed the added dep during an update on my personal machine.)

Anty0 commented on 2018-10-30 16:31

And of course all of this is just my opinion, so feel free to change my mind, if you know something I don't. :)

Anty0 commented on 2018-10-30 16:27

*But only packages, that can be used by that package without any plugins. (= If visual studio code does not support python without additional plugin, python-pylint should not be added as optdependcy, but if visual studio code support python by default and opening python file shows that warning without installing additional plugin, we should add python-pylint as optdependcy.)

Anty0 commented on 2018-10-30 16:20

@elgs I think, that optdepends are not about what you want, but about what you may want. So they should contain packages, that can be for someone only "pollution".

Personally, I think, that in optdepends should be every package, which can be used by that package in any way. Also sometimes it is good idea to add as optdependcy package, that is not used by that package, but can make usage of that package significantly easier. (There are lot of examples of that in official Arch Linux packages.)

elgs commented on 2018-10-30 03:47

Personally, I don't mind if there is a ton of optdepends.

I know you don't mind. But other people may see it as pollution. Many people don't like anything which is not necessary for them.

Caldazar commented on 2018-10-30 00:56

Fair point. You can't just add a ton of optdepends for every eventuality; you need to draw a line somewhere.

I see two main criteria, each of which is a good reason for an optdepends:

  1. The package is essential for a basic core functionality ( here 'basic Python support'. VSC complains about this package missing, not about 'pyflakes' )

  2. The package is arguably supposed to be installed --asdeps. If there is no package to optdepend on it, then it becomes an orphan as far as Pacman is concerned.

Both rules apply here imo. You could even make a point for XDebug for PHP even though VSC doesn't complain about that one. QtCreator for example has even git, mercury, valgrind etc. as optdepends.

If it gets too much, as it might happen with multi-language editors, then that's rather an argument for splitting the package into multiple optimized ones, like with Eclipse and Netbeans, not for letting the user whack-an-error-message.

Personally, I don't mind if there is a ton of optdepends. Let me know on install what else might be useful in combination with the main package.

elgs commented on 2018-10-29 21:46

I also think adding python specific things as dependency (even optional) is a bad idea.

TheAifam5 commented on 2018-10-29 21:32

@Caldazar that's a really bad idea.. VSCode has nothing with Python. So let's add Java, dotnet, and all other languages as a optional dependency -.- That's also does not change anything, so I wonder why that should be a optional dependency. There is also other python linter: pyflakes.

Caldazar commented on 2018-10-27 22:16

Could you please add 'python-pylint' as an optional depenendcy ( python-pylint: Code analysis for Python )?

As soon as I opened a *.py file, VSC complained "Linter pylint is not installed" and tried to make me install it via pip. It seems to consider it as a must-have for python language support.

I installed it explicitly with pacman but I'd rather have it --asdeps for VSC.